We have recently written and published an article to provide information on how to make a website for your HEMA club and the reasons why you should do so. As this article is expressly not aimed at newcomers but also for people who have existing clubs, we’d like some of you to read it. But right now there are some rather toxic individuals who are actively seeking to spread lies about our site to deter you from visiting it, so let’s have a conversation about why you should ignore them and read our guide, anyway.
We recognize the audience for this article are people who own clubs, and have done so for several years. So it’s worth having a conversation about why we created a HEMA club directory and why you should want to be included in it, since there has been several people who have intentionally spread misinformation to discourage people from wanting to be listed in our directory. In the process of building our HEMA Club Finder directory we indexed over 300 sites belonging to HEMA clubs around the world. It was a tedious process, as we manually reviewed every entry we made. During our research we did find lists of clubs on other websites, and we noticed many clubs had changed addresses, website domains that didn’t work anymore, and many other kinds of problems.
As we have often received some harassment from people on our Facebook Page regarding our directory (even to the point they spam the HEMAA Club Finder url on our Facebook posts) we might as well just be forward about why we remove these posts, and why we made our own directory to begin with.
We noticed problems with the HEMAA Club Finder over a year ago and which the HEMAA leadership refused to address, claiming it was too much “work” to address them. Fair enough, we decided we’ll just make our own when we decided to make this website as a resource for the community. Then later as part of building this website, in the process of building our Club Finder database we actually went through the HEMA Alliance club finder and looked at every listing, visiting every page it has. It quickly became clear to us that the manner in which the HEMAA handles their Club finder is not at the kind of standard we think is a good look for convincing people to get into HEMA and this is why we delete all posts people mention about that club finder on our page.
We will provide a few examples of what we mean.
- There are numerous club entries which are problematic on the HEMAA Club Finder. By problematic we even mean not actually a HEMA Club at all. Among the “clubs” listed be the HEMAA Club Finder are what we’re fairly sure is a goth vampire LARPing group and based on the videos we saw on their Facebook page, we are confident they are not teaching source based material.
- In another example one club seemed legit but instead of providing a real address all they had was a list of GPS coordinates, as if finding them was some kind of treasure hunt.
- Several sites we visited were listed as ‘dangerous websites’ by anti-virus software such as Norton. For many of these websites it was apparent that the domain renewal had lapsed and been snapped up by hackers and spammers seeking to distribute malware to anyone following the links of these defunct clubs. Some active HEMA club websites even had malware installed into their poorly maintained websites and we got browser alerts for them, too. We didn’t list these sites in our club finder as a result of them not being safe to send visitors to. We did send emails to some of these sites alerting them of the problem, but most of these sites did not have any kind of contact information listed and among those who did, the emails bounced.
- Our final example is the HEMA Alliance club listing that was not a club of any kind but actually a site about naturopathy. It had nothing to do with sword fighting, at all and from what we could tell, has never been about HEMA.
- ….purchased and customized a nice slick modular website theme that will look as good on mobile as it does on PC. Then improved it in numerous ways, and are still trying to refine these improvements.
- ….invested into application plugins for the site so it can provide some useful tools, such as our club finder.
- ….invested time, and even some money, into making nice articles with some slick info-graphics on a few key pages.
- ….invested the time to track down nearly every website with any decent HEMA related information in the English language. and organized them onto our Useful Websites list.
- … tracked down nearly every published HEMA book on Amazon (which was no small task FYI) from the past twenty years, and indexed a ton of specialty HEMA gear. We even found HEMA focused apparel people had made. The HEMAR website is now very nearly a one stop gateway to any kind of thing you might need to buy related to HEMA.
What exactly are these people doing for YOU to help YOU grow your school, and how does listening to them tell you lies about our website (that is designed to promote HEMA to the general public and bring more people into the community) help you do that?
These are questions you really need to take to heart. Yes, we publish anonymously. But how can anyone blame us for this, given the current toxic environment these vocal people have created? They act like bullies to get their way. They are mad right now because their usual tactics to intimidate and shun people are not working to get what they want. They have no idea who has created this website and that makes them mad because they are used to being able to harass people to get their way. Be sensible. Do you actually see anything on this website that is very inaccurate or problematic? Even if you look at our article on info about the demographics of the HEMA community (which these same people are trying very hard to distort our intentions and the reasons why we wrote it) you will see it does not misrepresent anything and actually provides some very useful information for how to market your schools and find new students, which is also the point of the article we just published. It’s not a list of who is in the HEMAA. It’s a pool of people who have an interest in HEMA and whom you can tap into, if you actually tried to. And we encourage you to do so. It’s worked well for us growing our Facebook Page and bringing people deeper into the community as a result. So, stop listening to these people who say outrageous lies with no evidence for their claims. They are too pre-occupied with other agendas to promote HEMA on our behalf. So we’re going to have to do it ourselves. We encourage you to try reading the articles we write, instead of allowing someone else to tell you what they say. Read them yourself and judge them yourself. Not everything here is amazing piece of scholarship and it’s not intended to be. We’re mostly trying to get people into the community and that often means writing link bait. That’s just how things work. There are more academic sites which cannot do this, and which WE LINK TO on their behalf, intending to steer people over there. You don’t need to know who has created this website, just like we don’t need to take public credit for making it, either. This is a service to contribute to the growth of the community and that in itself benefits us, because we love historical fencing. But making a website like this shouldn’t lead to harassment, and yet it has because there are some bad faith actors in the HEMA community who seem to believe they deserve to control it. But they don’t. Their only real control is in manipulating others while shouting loudly about how virtuous they are. Except, they’re not. The only thing that is important here is what this website is achieving, and right now it is just about the only website that is listing many books and resources that are not easily discoverable unless you spend hundreds of hours of time researching across a dozen different blogs. We’re also trying to make a very reliable club finder directory service. Yes we have affiliate links on this stuff, but so what? Websites cost money. The money has to come from somewhere. The ultimate goal of this site is to pull in over 100,000 visitors a month, getting the attention of anyone with any interest in the martial arts and swords to learn about HEMA. It’s a long path to get there but it won’t happen without some amount of monetization. That is the reality of economics. And unlike some other people we didn’t need to charge you money, or do fundraisers, or anything else to make this site. We did it out of our own pocket, with our own time. via GIPHY Considering all of this, concerning the question of whether you should take our advice on how to build your own website it might behoove you to take some advice from people who have demonstrated the ability to make a good website that can rank well on search engines, instead of perhaps people who are so clueless about his area they cannot even get their own websites to rank in their own hometowns for keywords related to the martial arts. So, in short, you should read our article about how to make a good website to promote your HEMA club. It’s going to help many of you grow your clubs. We’re not going to lecture you about anything we ourselves were not willing to do. We did it already building this site. Update to this: We have been responding to common allegations against the site in the HEMA Council International Facebook group, https://www.facebook.com/groups/1595290124124621/ There are two main complaints people have about content on the website,- A claim of having stolen stock photos we use. This is simply inaccurate and all photos we use have been licensed from stock photography websites where the photographers have uploaded those photos. We have also avoided using stock photos taken of people that show identifiable features such as their face, who we know are members of the HEMA community (and not just an unrelated model posing with a sword) by only using photos of specific HEMA activity that do not show identifiable features. This is why we use photos of HEMA specific individuals wearing masks when they were used as models. We did this to avoid them being unfairly harassed for being confused with the authors.
- A claim of stolen content. This again is not accurate, and an example given is a chart we created that was inspired by another chart. Our chart is very transformative, is used for editorial / educational purposes (which even if it is a derivative work makes it fair use) and it also attributes the original person who published it online with respect to how they chose to publish it (on reddit, using their username). To claim it is stolen content is not correct. We frequently provide attribution for where information has came from, with most pages having a bibliography at the bottom of the article if not when a direct link where the information itself is appearing in an article. We are not doing anything highly irregular within this community, where people frequently cite others work due to the scholarly nature of much of it. If anything we are highlighting the community’s work and trying to make it more accessible in popular search queries with the articles we write and the way we have organized the material, contributing to awareness of that work.
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